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  Re: It is official they want more money :PROOF :LETTER

  by raymond frantz in

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  hi guys over a week ago i started a post about the doantions the society is now asking witnesses as never before .this is the letter that was put on the notice board .i know conditional donation agreement is not a new thing .but this letter was send out of the blue ,no one asked for it and as long as i remember this arrangement it was something you have to ask bethel .notice also how a specific group of people istrargeted ,namely the elderly one with properties ,please let me have your feedback.

  the letter is here :.

  http://new-jw.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/proof-letter.png .

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  I have now posted the link where you can see the letter 100% .I did some researxh this volontuary agreement in not new BUT the way we've been asked for it and never saw that mentioned on both announcemments and notice board .Usually you have to ask yourself
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  by The Searcher in

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  hi raymond, do you have any further info/copy of the anouncement asking for money?.

  thanks..

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  This is thenew thread for the letter with proof

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/242248/1/Re-It-is-official-they-want-more-money-PROOF-LETTER
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  Re: It is official they want more money :PROOF :LETTER

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hi guys over a week ago i started a post about the doantions the society is now asking witnesses as never before .this is the letter that was put on the notice board .i know conditional donation agreement is not a new thing .but this letter was send out of the blue ,no one asked for it and as long as i remember this arrangement it was something you have to ask bethel .notice also how a specific group of people istrargeted ,namely the elderly one with properties ,please let me have your feedback.

  the letter is here :.

  http://new-jw.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/proof-letter.png .

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  raymond frantz

  Hi guys over a week ago I started a post about the doantions the Society is now asking Witnesses as never before .This is the letter that was put on the Notice Board .I know Conditional Donation Agreement is not a new thing .But this letter was send out of the blue ,no one asked for it and as long as I remember this arrangement it was something you have to ask Bethel .Notice also how a specific group of people istrargeted ,namely the elderly one with properties ,please let me have your feedback

  THE LETTER IS HERE :

  http://new-jw.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/proof-letter.png
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  @ RAYMOND FRANTZ

  by The Searcher in

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  hi raymond, do you have any further info/copy of the anouncement asking for money?.

  thanks..

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  raymond frantz

  Sorry for the delay ,I have the letter and will uploaded here over the weekend (sorry I've been quite busy) ,then I'm going to need your feedback on this letter .I had to smuggled out of the meeting (theoctatic warfare?)
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  It is OFFICIAL they want MORE MONEY : NEW ANNOUNCEMENT!!!

  by raymond frantz in

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  i just came back from the meeting .although the local announcements have been abolished recently as an item for the second part , an elder came on the platform to announce that the society needs more money and there is a letter on the noticeboard for all the congragation to read to this effect.

  although the announcement was read half heartedly (this elder's daughter is an apostate ,it looks like he knows what's going on) the implictions are dramatic .

  the society in brief,requests any brother or sister with funds sitting on personal accounts to loan them to the society ,he didn't go into any specifics but i will take a picture of the letter next time and make it available here .. i'm not amazed that they're asking for money ,i thought it will happen sooner or later .what i'm amazed is that 99% of the congragation are oblivious to the financial crisis that the society finds itself these days and the reasons why .i can see the future now .the watchtower will be the fist part of the babylon the great to go down in a blaze of scandals and financial troubles !.

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  I was the Cong Accountant and the donation from cogragations to the Society is old news but this is different ...
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  It is OFFICIAL they want MORE MONEY : NEW ANNOUNCEMENT!!!

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just came back from the meeting .although the local announcements have been abolished recently as an item for the second part , an elder came on the platform to announce that the society needs more money and there is a letter on the noticeboard for all the congragation to read to this effect.

  although the announcement was read half heartedly (this elder's daughter is an apostate ,it looks like he knows what's going on) the implictions are dramatic .

  the society in brief,requests any brother or sister with funds sitting on personal accounts to loan them to the society ,he didn't go into any specifics but i will take a picture of the letter next time and make it available here .. i'm not amazed that they're asking for money ,i thought it will happen sooner or later .what i'm amazed is that 99% of the congragation are oblivious to the financial crisis that the society finds itself these days and the reasons why .i can see the future now .the watchtower will be the fist part of the babylon the great to go down in a blaze of scandals and financial troubles !.

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  It wansn't a local needs item it was an out of the blue announcement for individual RF and not the congragation ,I will get the letter from the noticeboard on sunday and give more information
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  It is OFFICIAL they want MORE MONEY : NEW ANNOUNCEMENT!!!

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just came back from the meeting .although the local announcements have been abolished recently as an item for the second part , an elder came on the platform to announce that the society needs more money and there is a letter on the noticeboard for all the congragation to read to this effect.

  although the announcement was read half heartedly (this elder's daughter is an apostate ,it looks like he knows what's going on) the implictions are dramatic .

  the society in brief,requests any brother or sister with funds sitting on personal accounts to loan them to the society ,he didn't go into any specifics but i will take a picture of the letter next time and make it available here .. i'm not amazed that they're asking for money ,i thought it will happen sooner or later .what i'm amazed is that 99% of the congragation are oblivious to the financial crisis that the society finds itself these days and the reasons why .i can see the future now .the watchtower will be the fist part of the babylon the great to go down in a blaze of scandals and financial troubles !.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCoAoLOrxSM
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  It is OFFICIAL they want MORE MONEY : NEW ANNOUNCEMENT!!!

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just came back from the meeting .although the local announcements have been abolished recently as an item for the second part , an elder came on the platform to announce that the society needs more money and there is a letter on the noticeboard for all the congragation to read to this effect.

  although the announcement was read half heartedly (this elder's daughter is an apostate ,it looks like he knows what's going on) the implictions are dramatic .

  the society in brief,requests any brother or sister with funds sitting on personal accounts to loan them to the society ,he didn't go into any specifics but i will take a picture of the letter next time and make it available here .. i'm not amazed that they're asking for money ,i thought it will happen sooner or later .what i'm amazed is that 99% of the congragation are oblivious to the financial crisis that the society finds itself these days and the reasons why .i can see the future now .the watchtower will be the fist part of the babylon the great to go down in a blaze of scandals and financial troubles !.

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  raymond frantz

  sir82: "Maybe the WTS has demographic information and has sent "targeted" requested to certain areas. It wouldn't do much good to ask for "extra funds" from congregations in Swampland Mississippi; but there may be rich congregations in Silicon Valley, or Manhattan, or other areas with pockets of wealth. "

  That could be the case ,all elders now have a password for the jw.org .I t could be domagraphic ,as the are I'm in (sorry can't give more is super rich) with a fat balance in the bank
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  It is OFFICIAL they want MORE MONEY : NEW ANNOUNCEMENT!!!

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just came back from the meeting .although the local announcements have been abolished recently as an item for the second part , an elder came on the platform to announce that the society needs more money and there is a letter on the noticeboard for all the congragation to read to this effect.

  although the announcement was read half heartedly (this elder's daughter is an apostate ,it looks like he knows what's going on) the implictions are dramatic .

  the society in brief,requests any brother or sister with funds sitting on personal accounts to loan them to the society ,he didn't go into any specifics but i will take a picture of the letter next time and make it available here .. i'm not amazed that they're asking for money ,i thought it will happen sooner or later .what i'm amazed is that 99% of the congragation are oblivious to the financial crisis that the society finds itself these days and the reasons why .i can see the future now .the watchtower will be the fist part of the babylon the great to go down in a blaze of scandals and financial troubles !.

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  raymond frantz

  I hear from many hear ,especially in the UK that this announcement has not been made .I gather one of the reasons is that the local announcements have stoped as an item at the meeting .Please check your noticeboard I could be there for all read ,if you can get a scan please do it will shed more light in this matter
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  It is OFFICIAL they want MORE MONEY : NEW ANNOUNCEMENT!!!

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just came back from the meeting .although the local announcements have been abolished recently as an item for the second part , an elder came on the platform to announce that the society needs more money and there is a letter on the noticeboard for all the congragation to read to this effect.

  although the announcement was read half heartedly (this elder's daughter is an apostate ,it looks like he knows what's going on) the implictions are dramatic .

  the society in brief,requests any brother or sister with funds sitting on personal accounts to loan them to the society ,he didn't go into any specifics but i will take a picture of the letter next time and make it available here .. i'm not amazed that they're asking for money ,i thought it will happen sooner or later .what i'm amazed is that 99% of the congragation are oblivious to the financial crisis that the society finds itself these days and the reasons why .i can see the future now .the watchtower will be the fist part of the babylon the great to go down in a blaze of scandals and financial troubles !.

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  raymond frantz

  Local Announcements : There has been a letter to that effect ,there won't be any time allocated for local announcements .

  Donations :I will try to take a photo a letter next time when I'm at the meeting and then post the letter here (watch this space)